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Record 51 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/7

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 23 February 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Maj [George] Bryan; [Philip] Fogarty read letters from Robert Lennon of Callan, [County Kilkenny] enclosing subscriptions and from James Hewit Massey Dawson MP regarding the presentation of a petition to parliament; Maurice O’Connell read a letter of support from Frederick Ponsonby; Mr O’Reilly acknowledged a contribution of £100 from George Bourke Kelly, an Irishman living in England; Mr Lambert of Cornagh, County Wexford acknowledged a contribution from John Talbot of Talbot Hall, [County Wexford] and spoke in favour of Archibald Hamilton Rowan who was worthy of receiving a pardon from parliament; [Stephen] Coppinger outlined the case of a non-resident protestant minister in the diocese of Cloyne who solicited his catholic counterpart to put ‘ecclesiastical censures’ on parishioners who were in arrears of tithe rent in return for a contribution towards the building of a catholic chapel and Rev [Francis J] L'Estrange proposed that the case be referred to the committee of grievances; Mr Lanigan defended Lord de Vesci [John Vesey, 2nd Viscount de Vesci] whom he claimed was ‘one of the best Landlords in Ireland’; Lanigan and Maurice O’Connell both stated that they would submit to the current ‘atrocious Bill whenever it may pass into a Law’ but only ‘as far as the letter of it goes but not an inch beyond’; Mr Barron stated that the association never advocated the question of parliamentary reform and proposed that they send a petition to parliament contradicting the ‘false and groundless’ accusations of the English press; Councillor Guthrie, while praising the ‘sentiments expressed by Lord Cremore and the Hon[ora]ble Mr Ponsonby in their communications to the association’, expressed his disgust, as a protestant, at the ‘foul falsehoods’ uttered against the association and expressed his ‘detestation of the principles and practices of Orangemen’; L'Estrange declared that the clergy of Ireland were ‘to a man determined to stand by the Association’ and recounted how he had personally persuaded individuals to abandon their involvement in a society of Ribbonmen.

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1 item; 15pp

DATE(S):

23 Feb 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 52 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/8

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 2 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by [Col] Pierce Butler; Maj [George] Bryan forwarded thanks to Lord Cremore [Richard Thomas Dawson, 2nd Baron Cremorne] and George Bourke Kelly and cautioned the association to act with unanimity and ‘not to mingle the questions of Reform in Parliament or The abolition of Tythes with the grand question of catholic emancipation’; Bryan criticized George Canning, the Foreign Secretary and praised Archibald Hamilton Rowan who had ‘received the pardon of his Sovereign for an offence for which he was never tried’; Maurice O’Connell recommended that Rev McMullen’s letter concerning an ‘Orange outrage’ be sent to the committee of grievances; [Stephen] Coppinger praised Jeremiah Murphy of Cork for his contribution of £70; [Philip] Fogarty noted that Massey Dawson belatedly presented a petition from the catholics of Thurles, [County Tipperary] to parliament; Doctor Magee proposed a motion on education stating that ‘he had reason to know that a plan was contemplated which would be more obnoxious to the Country than the Kildare Street System’; [Frederick W] Conway stated that [Daniel] O’Connell and [Richard Lalor] Sheil reportedly had a long interview with the Attorney General [William Plunkett] in London; Mr O’Reilly proposed that the association fund ‘trust worthy reporters’ to report on circuit court cases; Mr Denehy, in seconding this motion, spoke of inequality before the law as evidenced by the case of Maurice Nagle, a tenant versus his landlord, Mr Boyce; Mr Forde agreed that the presence of a reporter ‘would be a check on a Buffoon Judge’; Dr Magee and Mr Lanigan, however, successfully argued against this motion stating that the people of Ireland held the administration of justice and the ‘judges of the land in the highest veneration’ and cautioned O’Reilly that he was ‘pronouncing libels’ on the judiciary thereby ‘forcing arguments for the enemies of the Association’; Maurice O’Connell clashed with Mr Lanigan over his opinion of Lord de Vesci whom he accused of being soft headed; Mr Barron asked that a petition to parliament be entrusted to Lord Donoughmore [Richard Hely Hely-Hutchinson, 1st earl of Donoughmore] but this was unsuccessfully objected to by O’Reilly who proposed that it be given to Earl Grey or Earl Fitzwilliam.

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1 item; 18pp

DATE(S):

2 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 53 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/9

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 4 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Laurence Finn; [James] Sugrue and [Stephen] Coppinger discussed the necessity of reporting on this meeting with assembled reporters, including Mr Leech of ‘The Freeman’ and Mr Byrne of ‘Saunders’; Sugrue noted that the meeting was a ‘mere matter of arrangement between themselves’ but that reporters were at liberty to report if they so wished; Coppinger expressed concern over the poor contribution of Dublin towards the catholic rent and urged that steps be immediately taken as the association was likely to be put down ‘in ten or twelve days’ and any new association formed would not be in a position to collect the rent; Coppinger noted that their enemies were terrified that the association had between £10000 and £12000 in government securities; Mr Leech suggested that an address made to the ‘Ladies of Dublin’ might assist with the collection of funds; Mr Redmond, a collector in Saint Paul’s parish, [Dublin] stated that they were ‘educating their own people and [that] knowledge was power’; while resolutions were being drafted in private; Edward White, shoemaker, announced to the meeting that Sugrue had just received a letter from Daniel O’Connell stating that catholic emancipation would be granted that session and that ‘Lord Liverpool intended to bring in the Bill himself’; however later when Sugrue was urged to read a portion of the letter the ‘meeting appeared evidently disappointed’ with the contents having ‘but a short time before heard that Emancipation was certain’; includes annotation in pencil instructing that the report be shown to [Henry] Goulburn, [Chief Secretary] and Lord Liverpool [Robert Banks Jenkinson, 2nd earl of Liverpool].

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1 item; 6pp

DATE(S):

4 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 54 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/10

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 8 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Laurence Finn; [James] Sugrue appointed collectors for each parish in Dublin; [John] Browne of Saint Catherine’s parish, [Dublin] noted that his parish had paid £10 for petitions to be presented to parliament by Mr Abercrombie and Lord Darnley opposing the ‘Gagging Bill’; [Stephen] Coppinger, secretary for Cork, read an address to the ladies of Dublin on the subject of the catholic rent and drew attention to a large contribution received from Cork; Mr Cullen and Sugrue disagreed over the wisdom of having handbills printed concerning the rent; Browne outlined his objections to the plan for the association to dissolve themselves, as put forth in a private letter from [Nicholas Purcell] O'Gorman; Browne also noted generally how magistrates had been successfully frustrated by the intervention of lawyers provided by the association; noted that the meeting was attended by upwards of 100 persons, ‘the great majority of whom appeared to be needy tradesmen’; including annotation in pencil stating that O’Connell’s letter has been omitted from the report and possibly identifying the author of the report as ‘Loyd’.

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1 item; 6pp

DATE(S):

8 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 55 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/11

TITLE:

Memorandum by [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Roman Catholic Association on 8 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by author identified as 'S N E' [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Laurence Finn; Mr Allen and Mr Rowan both declined taking the chair; [James] Sugrue called out the names of catholic rent collectors from whom he expected accounts and receipts; [John] Browne trusted that ‘the association would not dissolve itself before the very last hour allowed by law for its existence’; includes extract from an address to the ‘Ladies’ which was read to the meeting and which was signed by [Stephen] Coppinger, a barrister of Cork, Joseph Leech, a reporter to the ‘Freeman’s Journal’, J Dolan, an attorney, John Browne, an attorney and Frederick [W] Conway, editor of the ‘Dublin Evening Post’; Mr Byrne was critical of the apathy of some of the rent collectors and urged all to exert themselves ‘or they should be put in “the black book”’; Finn and Browne both rebuked Byrne for his incorrect allusion to a black book which ‘had existence outside Mr Goulburnes head alone’ and Browne hoped that the reference would not be included in the papers; including annotation in pencil stating that this was ‘not a full report’ and possibly identifying the author of the report as ‘Elrington’.

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1 item; 7pp

DATE(S):

8 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 56 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/12

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 9 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Nicholas Mahon; [Philip] Fogarty read letters enclosing subscriptions towards the catholic rent including letters from Eneas MacDonnell, Lord Cremorne [Richard Thomas Dawson, 2nd Baron Cremorne], John O’Connell of Cork, Joseph Huband, Charles Waterton of Wakefield, England, George B Kelly of Acton House, [Middlesex, England] and JP Lyons of Ardnaree, [County Mayo] who complained in his letter about intimidation against catholics orchestrated by staff of the North Mayo regiment; [Patrick] Costello and Maj Bryan both refuted Mr Butterworth’s contention that attempts were made to unduly coerce protestants to sign a petition got up by Col Pierce Butler and Rose Lambert Price of Desart in County Kilkenny; Maurice O’Connell read a letter of support from Valentine Skipton, the protestant uncle of Rev Tighe Gregory, which supported his conviction that ‘Bigotry does not run through the veins of a family’; [James] Sugrue announced that he had just received a letter from Daniel O’Connell, then in London, which was read to the meeting. In this letter O’Connell noted the progress of the bill ‘for the suppression of the association’ through parliament; that the cause of religious liberty was gaining ground in England despite the ‘prejudice created by Orange calumniators; his gratitude towards Sir Francis Burdett and Mr Plunkett and his conviction that ‘the Emancipation Bill’ would be passed that session’; that the bill sought ‘nothing at all of veto’ or ‘security, inconsistent with the doctrine or discipline of our Church’; that the bill established provisions for catholic clergy to allow them carry out acts of charity but did not affect the ‘existing jurisdiction of the Catholic Prelates in Ireland’; that he welcomed a proposal to raise the franchise from 40s to £5 or £10 as the ‘quantity of perjury and crime produced in counties by the present system is enormous’. Counsellor Guthrie cautioned the members not to express opinions on the bill until O’Connell’s return; Maj Bryan suggested that they could meet at Holyhead if the association was outlawed from meeting in Ireland; Mr Barron urged all treasurers and collectors to hand over all catholic rent before the following Wednesday; it is noted in this report that the passage relating to payment for clergymen in O’Connell’s letter was met with ‘marked disapprobation’ by some of the clergy who attended the meeting.

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1 item; 12pp

DATE(S):

9 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 57 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/13

TITLE:

Memorandum by [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Roman Catholic Association on 9 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by author identified as 'S N E' [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Roman Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Nicholas Mahon; Stephen Coppinger, [Frederick W] Conway, [Patrick] Costello and [Philip] Fogarty read letters enclosing subscriptions; includes list of subscribers and subscriptions with a note stating that the total amount received between the third and ninth of March was £1211 17s 4½d; Costello and Maj Bryan refuted the claims of Mr Butterworth MP who had stated in Parliament that protestants had been unduly obliged to sign a petition in favour of ‘the Catholic Question’ which had been got up by Col [Pierce] Butler and Rose Lambert Price and which had been voluntarily signed by ten members of the Grand Jury of Kilkenny, two heirs apparent to earldoms and John Power; Daniel O’Connell’s letter to [James] Sugrue dated 7 March was read to the meeting in which O’Connell noted the progress of the bill supressing the association; Mr Dillon withdrew his intention to move a motion regarding the franchise of the forty shilling freeholders as O’Connell had asked ‘that no member of the Association would give any opinion upon the change of the Elective Franchise until the Bill, the Draft of which “he was permitted to draw” should be presented’; Mr Barron instructed treasurers and collector to forward their remittances by 16 March; Maj Bryan queried if would be lawful for the association to meet in Holyhead if they were prevented in law from meeting in Ireland; noted that the hall was crowded and that many attendees were ‘of the humbler classes’.

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1 item; 15pp

DATE(S):

9 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 58 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/14

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 16 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Maj Bryan; [Philip] Fogarty, Richard O’Gorman, [Patrick] Costello, [Stephen] Coppinger, [Frederick W] Conway, Maj Bryan, Mr Kirwan, Mr Forde and Rev [Francis J] L'Estrange all read letters enclosing subscriptions and proposed new members; Fogarty read a long letter of support from Mr Huband; following a debate it was agreed that an address from the association to the Catholics of Ireland should be delayed until the last meeting of the association so that ‘they might by that time receive important information from O’Connell’; [William Francis] Finn argued that the meeting had the right to know the subject of any communication with O’Gorman but [Richard Lalor] Sheil disagreed stating that the ‘resolutions were only under discussion and not adopted’ and that they should wait until Friday for further communications from London; Sheil gave an account of events in London including [Robert] Peel’s attack on the character of [Archibald] Hamilton Rowan, Christopher Hutchinson ‘who stood forward as their Champion’, [Henry] Brougham’s speech and O’Connell’s speech ‘at the Aggregate meeting in London’; Sheil refused to discuss as per O’Connell’s instructions, the franchise of the forty shilling freeholders or the question of payment of the clergy ‘although for his part he disapproved of both measures, yet to obtain their Freedom some concession ought to be made’ and he urged the people to be united as emancipation might not be granted that session; O’Gorman began by stating that he would not consent ‘to deprive one single individual who subscribed his penny to the Rent of his franchise nor should he ever consent to the payment of the clergy’ but was asked to ‘desist in delivering his sentiments’ by several persons; Coppinger proposed a vote of thanks to those who had opposed ‘the new penal bill’ in parliament.

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1 item; 11pp

DATE(S):

16 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 59 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/15

TITLE:

Memorandum by [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Roman Catholic Association on 16 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by author identified as 'S N E' [Stephen N Elrington] providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Roman Catholic Association held at the Corn Exchange, [Dublin], chaired by Maj Brian [Bryan]; [Frederick W] Conway, [Patrick] Costello and [Philip] Fogarty agreed that the reading of an address from the association to the people of Ireland should be postponed until Friday; Conway noted that the address would recommend ‘patience and forbearance’ and would urge the population not to undo the ‘tranquil state of the country’ or enter ‘any description of confederacy’ and maintain ‘unqualified loyalty to the King’; Fogarty and [Richard Lalor] Sheil disagreed with [William Francis] Finn who stated that the meeting had the right to know the contents of a letter from [Nicholas Purcell] O'Gorman containing the resolutions of the deputation in London. Sheil defended himself against an attack in a Dublin newspaper and gave an account of events in London mentioning [William] Plunkett’s speech; the services of [Henry] Brougham; his interview with Sir [Francis] Burdett; an English Catholics’ meeting. Sheil stated that emancipation would be granted but ‘perhaps not immediately’ and that the ‘minds of the people of England were becoming more enlightened’ despite [George] Canning’s assertion that ‘the feeling of the English people was hostile to Emancipation’; [Stephen] Coppinger proposed a vote of thanks to their ‘Parliamentary friends’; 300 new subscribers were admitted as members including many Catholic clergy and [Maurice] O’Connell announced that remittances of catholic rent for the period 10 to 16 March amounted to £1844 10s 2d.

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1 item; 12pp

DATE(S):

16 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

Record 60 from 'CSO/RP'
NAI REFERENCE:

CSO/RP/CA/1825/16

TITLE:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of meeting of the Catholic Association on 18 March 1825

SCOPE & CONTENT:

Memorandum by unknown author providing an eyewitness account of a meeting of the Catholic Association chaired by Col [Pierce] Butler; [Frederick W] Conway read a ‘farewell’ address to the people of Ireland from the association which it was agreed to publish; Maurice O’Connell read a letter from Daniel O’Connell written ‘in his individual capacity and not as a Member of the Deputation’ and Nicholas Mahon urged O’Connell to pass over a passage in Daniel O’Connell’s letter that referred to [John] Lawless ‘in order to preserve the harmony that subsisted in the meeting’; Cornelius McLoghlin and [Patrick] Costello proposed and read resolutions which, it was assured, ‘met with the approbation of Lord Killeen and the other members of the deputation’; Mr McDermott made a long speech; Mahon proposed that the money in the hands of the treasurer from the catholic rent be vested in Lord Killeen; Maj Bryan ended the meeting with ‘three cheers for Old Ireland’ and suggested ‘in an undertone’ aside to Costello that they should have weekly aggregate meetings to which Costello replied that it ‘would be done by requisition’.

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1 item; 7pp

DATE(S):

18 Mar 1825

DATE EARLY:

1825

DATE LATE:

1825

ORIGINAL REFERENCE:

no original number

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